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This section wasn't planned to be the part of this site during its creation. But...
This section of my site has been set up in order to alert the traders and label owners about each case of falsehood and incompetent
trade situations I have had within my label work (even if my loss was small in price). Yes, this section is about those cases which are considered like "rip-off's". Honest underground is not a place
where commercial pigs would find their "food". I hope that my information about each case of problem I have had with rip-offers will bring some hindrances
for their future activity, that’s why the problems are corroborated by all information about trades and hidden there persons.
Anyway, each one who is listed here can solve his problem with using of one of 3 ways:
1. If I received the promised stuff;
2. If I received the payment for my stuff;
3. If my stuff was returned me the same condition and quantity I sent it previously with total compensation of postal prices.
Each case is also completed with information about my loss (for the European territories) and name of items which were stolen. Everybody must understand,
if he received any of written stuff from the hands of these thieves he received the stolen items.
Micic Milorad / Knjaz Nazgul Underground Resistance (Serbia)
In the very beginning of June 2006 a. b. he sent me his catalogue with information about trade possibility. Very quickly we have achieved the agreement
of trading and I sent him my part of trade in June 09, 2006 a. b. (4 mini-CD’s, 5 CD’s, 5 MC’s and master with 10 MC covers were included to my pack) for his stuff
(10 CD’s and 1 mini-CD). He told me he sent his items the same day. After the 1.5 months of waiting I received nothing from him and just asked him if he received my
items and what’s up with his part of trade. He answered me quickly, that he has received my stuff and that he already told me that he asked the postal workers about
the fate of his pack and they told nothing to him.
Here is real "shorthand record" of his information back from August 6, 2006 a. b.:
"Yes brother we have received your package, but as I told you last time I send a warrant for our package but still we don't have any answer from our
local post office, well the only think what we can do now is to send a new package on monday but in case that you receive the first one you should send us this second
one, ok? On monday we will ship a new one".
It was real surprise for me because I didn’t told him about any problem with his stuff till this message, so I think
I’m not the only one who was thieved by himself. Since that day I have been heared nothing from him even if few messages were sent him. I'm totally sure that
I’ll have nothing in future.
Through few weeks after the trading with him I have found in the web information that he tried to rip-off Ukrainian labels Propaganda and Griffin Music.
Sadly, but this information was a little bit late for me.
He can contact with using the names: Miki, Moloch, Konstantin and Knjaz Nazgul (he contacted me like Miki and Knjaz Nazgul). Be attentive!
The last contact sources I had are:
c/o Micic Milorad, Brace Rabrenovic # 1, 32250 Ivanjica, SERBIA (snail address);
nosferatu@EUnet.yu (e-mail address).
The approximate loss of my label (p&p included ) is 130 Euros.
Stolen stuff is: ABHOR "Vehementia" digi-CD; ARKHAM "Chapter III: The Madness from the Sea" mini-CD; GOATLORD CORP. "Early Beginnings
of War" mini-CD; GOTMOOR "Vlaemsche Premitieven" CD; GRIFFAR "Of Withces and Celts" CD; LUCIFUGUM "Vector 33" CD; OPERATION WINTER
MIST "Imperial Grand Strategy" CD; THE BEAST "Fixed by the Devil" mini-CD; UNHOLY TRINITY "Omnimalevolence" mini-CD; LUNAR AURORA "Ars Moriendi" MC;
ROOT "Kargeras" MC; SKULLTHRONE "All for Satan" MC; VELES "The Triumph of Pagan Beliefs" MC; WAR 88 "White Aryan Resistance" MC; WOODS OF
BELIAL "Baxabaxaxaxaxa... / Thy Unholy Pentagram" MC.
P.S. I having also information that French label Flamme Noire was also ripped by himself for 25 CD's with using this "standard scheme".
P.P.S. After the sending my alert message I received a lot of "optimistic" answers so now I can observe the real situation with this bastard:
1. Lithuanian Ledo Takas was ripped him for 12 CD's, few MC's and vinyl's and few shirts. Like in my case he telling Tadas the same information about lost parcels etc.;
2. Romanian Mirgilus Siculorum is ripped for 16 magazines, the price of loss is 96 Euros + postal rates;
3. Stunde Des Ideal from Germany is ripped for 15 CD's;
4. Finnish Bestial Burst was near to be ripped-off by him, but my message arrived to Sami in time: "Thanks for the warning! That guy e-mailed me last week and proposed a trade, mail sent my "Miki" and signed by "Morbid", from the same nosferatu@EUnet.yu e-mail address. Anyway, it looked too shady to start with, he offered ÑD's no serbian underground trader could possibly have, and I'm glad I passed it!";
5. Chile based label Southern Warfare is also ripped, I don't know the loss amount in this case but information exists on his web-pages;
6. French Altsphere label owner Jeff sent him some CD's and vinyl's, no answer here.
Also, he ripped such labels like Osmose, ATMF, Black Plague, Sabbathid and Polish VENEDAE band.
And make a note, according to information from Southern Warfare and Sabbathid this thief has changed the name of his phantom service to Old Troll
Distribution, so he can use now different names. Be careful in contacts with Serbia if you don't know the label! The operative monitoring of the rip-off history is also possible to see on Propaganda web-pages through the direct link http://www.propaganda666.com/humans.htm. Be attentive!
You can use this banner in WC section of your site, this is the best place for the location of this piece of shit. I hope one day I shall see his mother with a tears on her face and dressed in black clothes. Somewhere in church... Near the nice coffin with the body of young police-man... Oh, fukk, I'm waiting! We are waiting!
Christian Felipe Paucar Toledo (Peru)
I publish here the information from Armando Mutilator, the only owner of Peruvian Deaththrasher label and magazine. In fact that above-written Christian Felipe Paucar Toledo tried to rip me off with false promises about the
reviewing of my releases etc. I have heard something unpleasant about his name and then I have contacted Armando about the e-mail I have received under the name of Deaththrasher. He told me that I am right and this is rip-off sending. Well, we have decided to put information about this pig for the avoiding of
possible new rip-offs. Here is the official Deaththrasher declaration.
This jerk called Christian Felipe Paucar Toledo, he has been ripping-off several bands, labels and magazines around the world, using the name of the well-known magazine Deaththrasher. Deaththrasher magazine has nothing to do with this scum, whose only goal was to obtained free stuff from people in the metal world. His "technique" included the offering of the front cover of the magazine, tour dates in Lima (Peru), and songs in a compilation he said he was working on.
This scum also included t-shirts and the claim of a supposed manager or a supposed co-editor, that never existed, but who was always rushing bands to send their material as soon as possible, with the excuse of a deadline. This asshole never had anything, was never the part of any magazine, never had a manager, never had a co-editor, neither
a record label nor a website!!! He is just a simple bastard who likes to get stuff for free and then sells it in a place called "Galerias Brasil" in Lima.
Now this scum has been uncover he is using the name of Occultism magazine, The Averno Obsculum zine, Averno magazine or Nazca fanzine and the nicknames of Lord Ocultus, Lord Barathrum, Lord Mortum, Lord Noctum Funeris, Lord Mactus, Lord Pactum, Lord Neburus, Ricardo Infectus, Verito, Verito Arnao, Verito Inca, Veronica Arnao, Luis, Christopher Crispin etc., for the same purposes explained lines above.
There is no proof of the existence of such magazine, in fact if any of you guys ask him for a copy or whatever, he won't send you anything because that publication does not exist. He is not using his real name Christian Felipe Paucar Toledo anymore because he knows that everybody is awared of his "practices".
He is only using the following addresses:
Occultism Magazine, Avenida Morro Solar 1710, Residencial Monterrico Sur, Santiago De Surco, Lima 33 PERU;
The Averno Obsculum Zine or Averno Magazine, Av Los Proceres Cuadra 7 S/N, Conjunto Habitacional Las Cruzetas, Block 60 Dpto 303, Surco, Lima 33 PERU, South America;
Nazca Fanzine, Veronica Arnao or Verito Arnao, Incas Metal, Unidad Vecinal, E 211, Ica, PERU;
Deaththrasher Magazine, A. Mutilador, Al Costado De La Univ Ricardo Palma, Morro Solar 1712, Surco, Lima 33 PERU, South America.
Under no circumstances do not send any stuff to any address that has either "Morro Solar", "Morro Solar 1710", "Morro Solar 1712", "Conjunto Habitacional Las Cruzetas" or "Las Cruzetas" as the mailing address.
If you see it, do not send anything! You'll be ripped-off!!! You have been warned!!!
If you receive any e-mail from this delinquent write now to his server; his server is Telefonica Del Peru, write to gestionip@telefonica.net.pe and denounce him, resend his mail to them! If he wrote from a hotmail account, not problem, Telefonica Del Peru have the ip of the delinquent, you only must re-send the e-mail. Resend the e-mail to abuse@hotmail.com too.
He uses a lot of e-mail addresses, so be careful if you receive the offers from: ocultismomagazine@hotmail.com; ocultismomagazine@latinmail.com; christianpaucar@hotmail.com; locotubo2004@hotmail.com; nazcafanzine@hotmail.com; nazcafanzine@latinmail.com; ocultismomag@yahoo.com; thrasherfanzine@hotmail.com; thrashersfanzine@hotmail.com; furia_zine@hotmail.com; armandomutilador@hotmail.com (fake Armando Mutilator's e-mail); juansargatanas@hotmail.com (fake Juan Sargatanas e-mail).
MySpace account of this delinquent is http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=64451370.
Deaththrasher requests everyone in the metal world to avoid sending anything without prior confirmation through these e-mail addresses: info@deaththrasher.com or deaththrasher@deaththrasher.com. These are the only official e-mails that bands, labels, zines, etc. must write to before sending anything. Any other is not valid!
Here is the criminal recording of Christian Felipe Paucar Toledo he did under the written above names:
Ripped off Jean Carlo Mutantbangers (Peru) with U$D 150.00 (jeancaustin@hotmail.com);
Ripped off the band LITHAM (Algeria) with 30 CD's and t-shirt (litham@ifrance.com);
Ripped off the band TORTURER (Chile) with 17 CD's (fcautin@subtel.cl);
Ripped off the band SUFFERING DOWN (Spain) with 10 digi-CD's (suffering@euskalnet.net);
Ripped off the band EVIL OFFERING (Chile) with 10 CD's (insane592@hotmail.com);
Ripped off NECROTORTURE LIVE and PROMOTION AGENCY (Italy) a lot of CD's (necrotorture@libero.it);
Ripped off Grindethic Records (U.K.) with a lot of CD's (grindethic@btinternet.com);
Ripped off the band LAGRIMAS NEGRAS (Spain) with a lot of stuff (lagrimas_negras@hotmail.com);
Ripped off the band MORBUS (Venezuela) with a lot of stuff (morbus_666@hotmail.com);
Ripped off the band MORTIFICY (Brazil) with a lot of stuff (danieluncradlle@mortificy.com);
Ripped off INFEST Magazine (Peru) with a lot of stuff (infestzine666@yahoo.es);
Ripped off the band ABGOTT (Italy) with 3CD's, 1 signature plectrum, 1 poster, several flyers and 10 ABGOTT stickers (agamoth666@hotmail.com);
Ripped off the band MOREDHEL (Germany) with 3 CD's (moredhel-info@web.de);
Ripped off the band BARZAKH (Indonesia) with 2 CD's (barzakh97@yahoo.com);
Ripped off the band 1917 (Argentina) with 2 CD's (nn1917@hotmail.com);
Ripped off the band NOMENMORTIS (Slovakia) with 2 CD's (nomenmortis@hotmail.com);
Ripped off BTROD Zine (Mexico) with 1 CD + 1 zine (antonbdd@hotmail.com);
Ripped off Militia Templi Records (Italy) with 1 mini-CD + 1 demo (frozen_sky666@yahoo.it);
Ripped off the band VII ARCANO (Italy) with 1 CD (info@viiarcano.com);
Ripped off the band VOMIGOD (Poland) with 1 CD (gutfucker@o2.pl);
Ripped off the band PHILOSOPHER (Germany) with 1 CD (post@philosopher-music.de);
Ripped off the band ENRAGED (Holland) with 1 CD (enraged_contact@hotmail.com);
Ripped off the band EVIL WAR (Brazil) with 1 CD (ichthys-niger@evilwar.com.br);
Ripped off the band SAEVUS (Brazil) with 1 CD (saevushorde@acessa.com);
Ripped off the band MACHETAZO (Spain) with 1 CD (diablodopi@hotmail.com);
Ripped off the band VISENDI (Norway) with 1 CD (kveraas@msn.com);
Ripped off the band HYPONIC (Hong Kong) (hyponic@asiamail.com);
Ripped off the band ADULTERY (Czech Republic) with 1 CD (elrabor@seznam.cz);
Ripped off the band THRONEUM and Time Before Time Records (Poland) with 1 CD (triumph@poczta.onet.pl);
Ripped off the band CONDEMNED (USA) (condemned@sbcglobal.net);
Ripped off the band DESPONDENCY (Holland) (deadilm@web.de);
Ripped off the band ETERNAL TRAGEDY (Italy) (metalentity@yahoo.com);
Ripped off the band LYCANTHIA (Australia) (lycanthia@hotmail.com);
Ripped off the band Brutalidad Total Magazine (Ecuador) (brutalidadtotal@yahoo.com).
P. S. According to new information from the Armando Mutilator this thief has now new MySpace account with the direct link http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=99555387. Be careful!
And you can support the campaign against the greedy scum Christian Felipe Paucar Toledo with using this banner. Or visit
the official "anti-Toledo" account on MySpace via http://www.myspace.com/paucar_rip_off and put there your comments and opinions.
Gerardo Garcia / Jesus Lozano MB Records (Mexico)
In October 2005 a. b. I received the e-mail with trade offer. November 17, 2005 a. b. I sent him my part of trade (master’s + 20 MC covers) for his stuff (9 MC’s). Then silence from his side happened. After
few e-mail’s with question if he had received my stuff in the beginning 2006 a. b. he answered me positively and told that he have had any problems with police and prison
because of driving the car in tipsy condition, but he promised to send his stuff quickly. Till now I have nothing from him, even if few e-mail's were send him within last 6
months.
The last contact sources I had are:
c/o Gerardo Garcia Flores, Apartado Postal 2217, Sucursal de Correos Tecnologico, Monterrey N.L. MEXICO CP 64841 (snail address);
integracomunicacion@prodigy.net.mx (e-mail address).
The approximate loss of my label (p&p included ) is 20 Euros.
Stolen stuff is: ITHDABQUTH QLIPHOTH "Demonic Crown of Anticreation" MC, WOODS OF BELIAL "Baxabaxaxaxaxa... / Thy Unholy Pentagram" MC.
CHAOSEMPIRE
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